Liberty, exit, and water. Lots of water.

Ugh…this again:

Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

While I’m obviously in disagreement with the interpretation of libertarianism as billionaire ego wankery the crew here (via dL) clings to in response to this, I don’t think too highly of seasteading either.  Along with the logistical nightmares involved, the question of just whose definition of “libertarian” we’re working with here (somehow I doubt a society of mutualists or other anti-state & pro-labor types would be welcome for long in Thielville…) and the likelihood that if the structures actually worked they’d be attacked by the states in the region “international waters” be damned, there’s a philosophical curiosity here:

If liberty is not just voice, but exit, then what does it mean to seek liberty in a structure that makes exit more difficult?



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One Response to Liberty, exit, and water. Lots of water.

  1. dL says:

    Patri here is working off a principle of forcing competition in government.

    The criticism against BJ is that despite the reality of government as a National Security State, they simply dismiss any actual potential challenge to this Status Quo. In my book, this makes them conservative, right-wing and authoritarian.

    BJ is not actually an advocate of “voice” either, since they dismiss any voice other than their own as illegitimate. As John Cole has stated, libertarianism, as voice, can only be aligned with the GOP.

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